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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13263</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the turn of the Century (around 1895) the Sultan murdered tens of thousands of Armenians, but the British said, &quot;Now is not a good time&quot; and hid the events.

In WWI, Turkey was strategic to Germany, and the German government watched, and excused, the Young Turks when they ravaged the Armenian communities.  What could they do, after all, &quot;Now was not a good time&quot;.

At the founding of the Leage of Nations, President Wilson strove to bring some Justice to the Armenian people, but the grand assembly said, &quot;Now is not a good time&quot; and avoided any penalties for the crimes Turkey committed.

When Ataturk deposed of the small remaining remnant of Armenians in Turkey during his reign of terror, Western Democracies again turned a blind eye, after all, &quot;Now was not a good time&quot;. 

From the 1930&#039;s until this date, there have been a variety of reasons to deny the Armenian people any justice.  First it was NATO alliances which made recognition of the atroticites perpetrated on the Armenian people to be constantly denied.  And the steady drumb beat of denial continues to this day.

HR 106 and its companion, SR 106, has made the rounds, with President Bush strongly advocating its never reaching the house floor for a vote, after all, the War on Terror is the new excuse, and well . . .&quot;Its not a good time&quot;.

And we know, the Israeli government, with their abundance of Jusice for the WWII crimes against the Jews, thinks it is &quot;never a good time&quot; to recognize the genocide of others.  They claim we should take a &quot;historical view&quot; of what took place.  Imagine if the world denied the Jewish Genocide of WWII with such a claim . . . &quot;lets look at both sides&quot;, &quot;lets take an historical view&quot;, or my favorite &quot;its up to Jews and Germans to decide&quot; - all of which has been said about the Armenian/Turkey issue coming out of Israel.  

The Jewish component of the Turkish Denial of Genocide is repulsive.  The more the public discovers what large, powerful, Jewish groups have done in participating in Genocide Denial, the more they will open themselves up for the denial of their own plight.  Even now, in Turkey, there are extremist groups who claim the Young Turks were Jews and the Armenian Genocide was planned by the Jewish Community.  The Jewish communities constant denial makes these accusations seem plausible.  In the end, it might not be in the best interest of the Jewish Community to continue supporting Turkey in this denial.  People will start looking at the history of these two people for themselves.  The strong link is indisputable and suspicious to this writer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the turn of the Century (around 1895) the Sultan murdered tens of thousands of Armenians, but the British said, &#8220;Now is not a good time&#8221; and hid the events.</p>
<p>In WWI, Turkey was strategic to Germany, and the German government watched, and excused, the Young Turks when they ravaged the Armenian communities.  What could they do, after all, &#8220;Now was not a good time&#8221;.</p>
<p>At the founding of the Leage of Nations, President Wilson strove to bring some Justice to the Armenian people, but the grand assembly said, &#8220;Now is not a good time&#8221; and avoided any penalties for the crimes Turkey committed.</p>
<p>When Ataturk deposed of the small remaining remnant of Armenians in Turkey during his reign of terror, Western Democracies again turned a blind eye, after all, &#8220;Now was not a good time&#8221;. </p>
<p>From the 1930&#8242;s until this date, there have been a variety of reasons to deny the Armenian people any justice.  First it was NATO alliances which made recognition of the atroticites perpetrated on the Armenian people to be constantly denied.  And the steady drumb beat of denial continues to this day.</p>
<p>HR 106 and its companion, SR 106, has made the rounds, with President Bush strongly advocating its never reaching the house floor for a vote, after all, the War on Terror is the new excuse, and well . . .&#8221;Its not a good time&#8221;.</p>
<p>And we know, the Israeli government, with their abundance of Jusice for the WWII crimes against the Jews, thinks it is &#8220;never a good time&#8221; to recognize the genocide of others.  They claim we should take a &#8220;historical view&#8221; of what took place.  Imagine if the world denied the Jewish Genocide of WWII with such a claim . . . &#8220;lets look at both sides&#8221;, &#8220;lets take an historical view&#8221;, or my favorite &#8220;its up to Jews and Germans to decide&#8221; &#8211; all of which has been said about the Armenian/Turkey issue coming out of Israel.  </p>
<p>The Jewish component of the Turkish Denial of Genocide is repulsive.  The more the public discovers what large, powerful, Jewish groups have done in participating in Genocide Denial, the more they will open themselves up for the denial of their own plight.  Even now, in Turkey, there are extremist groups who claim the Young Turks were Jews and the Armenian Genocide was planned by the Jewish Community.  The Jewish communities constant denial makes these accusations seem plausible.  In the end, it might not be in the best interest of the Jewish Community to continue supporting Turkey in this denial.  People will start looking at the history of these two people for themselves.  The strong link is indisputable and suspicious to this writer!</p>
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		<title>By: WorldWideWeber</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13262</link>
		<dc:creator>WorldWideWeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur: thanks for commenting. I replaced a large portion of your comment with a link to where it can be read (in its entirety, as far as I can tell) at another site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur: thanks for commenting. I replaced a large portion of your comment with a link to where it can be read (in its entirety, as far as I can tell) at another site.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13261</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 02:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to know the true article about the Armenian Genocide.

The Armenians, a proud peoples with a rich culture &amp; heritage of architecture, art, and literature
On April 24, 1915, the most important figures of the Armenian community in Constantinople - newspaper editors, writers, churchmen, Armenian intellectual leaders and even parliamentarians, were taken from their homes and hanged in public. All were never heard of again. Armenian society in the Ottoman Empire had just been decapitated.

The Armenian Genocide, the first genocide of the 20th Century, occurred when two million Armenians living in Turkey were eliminated from their historic homeland through forced deportations and massacres. For four thousand years, a thriving Armenian community had existed inside the vast region of the Middle East bordered by the Black, Mediterranean and Caspian Seas. The area, known as Asia Minor, stands at the crossroads of three continents; Europe, Asia and Africa. Great powers rose and fell over the many centuries and the Armenian homeland was at various times ruled by Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs and Mongols.

[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm&quot; title=&quot;United Human Rights Council page on Armenian genocide&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read more&lt;/a&gt;] 

Also, the only reason why the American Government did not recognize the genocide was because of politics and money. Too long of a story i don&#039;t feel like explaining. If your intelligent then you would understand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to know the true article about the Armenian Genocide.</p>
<p>The Armenians, a proud peoples with a rich culture &amp; heritage of architecture, art, and literature<br />
On April 24, 1915, the most important figures of the Armenian community in Constantinople &#8211; newspaper editors, writers, churchmen, Armenian intellectual leaders and even parliamentarians, were taken from their homes and hanged in public. All were never heard of again. Armenian society in the Ottoman Empire had just been decapitated.</p>
<p>The Armenian Genocide, the first genocide of the 20th Century, occurred when two million Armenians living in Turkey were eliminated from their historic homeland through forced deportations and massacres. For four thousand years, a thriving Armenian community had existed inside the vast region of the Middle East bordered by the Black, Mediterranean and Caspian Seas. The area, known as Asia Minor, stands at the crossroads of three continents; Europe, Asia and Africa. Great powers rose and fell over the many centuries and the Armenian homeland was at various times ruled by Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs and Mongols.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm" title="United Human Rights Council page on Armenian genocide" rel="nofollow">Read more</a>] </p>
<p>Also, the only reason why the American Government did not recognize the genocide was because of politics and money. Too long of a story i don&#8217;t feel like explaining. If your intelligent then you would understand</p>
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		<title>By: WorldWideWeber</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13253</link>
		<dc:creator>WorldWideWeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you came around to seeing the positive parts of the editorial. I agree it wasn&#039;t perfect---but it wasn&#039;t my editorial!

Thanks for exposing me to the secondary definition of &lt;a title=&quot;Definition of &#039;mitzvah&#039;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/mitzvah&amp;r=67&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;mitvah&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. And for giving me the opportunity to mention that, for symmetry with the preceding &lt;em&gt;Libbyphilia&lt;/em&gt;, I perhaps should have titled this entry &lt;em&gt;Armenomisia&lt;/em&gt;, but I couldn&#039;t think of, and didn&#039;t take the time to find, the &lt;a title=&quot;Glossary of Greek and Latin prefixes and suffixes&quot; href=&quot;http://www.medicalassistant.net/glwordlist.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greek suffix&lt;/a&gt; for &quot;hatred, disgust, revulsion.&quot; But since fear is certainly an admixture here, I&#039;ll let it stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you came around to seeing the positive parts of the editorial. I agree it wasn&#8217;t perfect&#8212;but it wasn&#8217;t my editorial!</p>
<p>Thanks for exposing me to the secondary definition of <a title="Definition of 'mitzvah'" href="http://www.answers.com/mitzvah&#038;r=67" rel="nofollow"><em>mitvah</em></a>. And for giving me the opportunity to mention that, for symmetry with the preceding <em>Libbyphilia</em>, I perhaps should have titled this entry <em>Armenomisia</em>, but I couldn&#8217;t think of, and didn&#8217;t take the time to find, the <a title="Glossary of Greek and Latin prefixes and suffixes" href="http://www.medicalassistant.net/glwordlist.htm" rel="nofollow">Greek suffix</a> for &#8220;hatred, disgust, revulsion.&#8221; But since fear is certainly an admixture here, I&#8217;ll let it stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13252</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...especially in that it &quot;acknowledg[es] as genocide the systematic murder of a million and a half [Armenians].&quot;  Under the circumstances, I think that counts as a &lt;i&gt;mitzvah&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;especially in that it &#8220;acknowledg[es] as genocide the systematic murder of a million and a half [Armenians].&#8221;  Under the circumstances, I think that counts as a <i>mitzvah</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://wwweber.marginata.com/2007/03/armenophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-13251</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, WWW (and thanks for the links).  I guess after the initial warm glow of &quot;hey! they didn&#039;t completely sell out the Armenians!&quot; I realized that all they were saying was &quot;uniqueness of the Holocaust isn&#039;t a winning or seemly argument.&quot;  

Which leaves the editorial door wide open to other notions like &quot;someone else&#039;s schedule&quot; (=&quot;you don&#039;t mean right &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;, do you?&quot;) and the Turkey-Israel cooperation you point out.

But credit where due; it was a decent editorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, WWW (and thanks for the links).  I guess after the initial warm glow of &#8220;hey! they didn&#8217;t completely sell out the Armenians!&#8221; I realized that all they were saying was &#8220;uniqueness of the Holocaust isn&#8217;t a winning or seemly argument.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Which leaves the editorial door wide open to other notions like &#8220;someone else&#8217;s schedule&#8221; (=&#8221;you don&#8217;t mean right <i>now</i>, do you?&#8221;) and the Turkey-Israel cooperation you point out.</p>
<p>But credit where due; it was a decent editorial.</p>
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